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Bach made an impromptu visit to King Frederick the Great of Prussia, and was . Gödel, Escher, and Bach are deeply intertwined in this very short Dialogue. What are some of the most riveting concepts featured in Gödel, Escher, Bach? Why isn’t the Douglas Hofstadter book Gödel, Escher, Bach available as an. Douglas Hofstadter, the Pulitzer Prize–winning author of Gödel, Escher, Bach, thinks we’ve lost sight of what artificial intelligence really means.

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Every page creates another link, another loop, another facet for contemplation. An Eternal Golden Braid. Hofstadter quotes from an article in The New Yorkerin which two statements are made that, while possible, would constitute lunacy on the part of anyone who actually believed them.

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To see what your friends thought of this book, please sign up. In this vein, it is interesting to read Hofstadter’s justification for including the Incompleteness Theorems in his book: I believe that this wicked name calling in regard to smart fiction is due ydel a defense formation against the trauma of being the kind of thing we are and the kind of world we make for ourselves, compulsively.

But if you really like math, then you’ve almost certainly already read it. Bach” just as the first acrostic claims. Anyway, I also thought that the examination of the nature of intelligence was a worthwhile portion of the book.

The early part of the relationship is a little tentative—what with both of you trying to get a feel for each other, and both of you not quite knowing what to make of each other—but the time you spend together is lots and lots of fun.

The book alternates between Chapters and Dialogues. That only made me more disgusted with bxch book, since it turns out that the book is riddled with historical errors where Hofstadter just made things up or ignored actual evidence in favor of making his points. View all 4 comments. A mathematical theorem which is about itself? Tortoise, Meet Madame Tortue”, saying translators “instantly ran headlong into the conflict between the feminine gender of the French noun tortue and the masculinity of my character, the Tortoise.


They even have a fairly good understanding of how neurons operate in groups to take on specific tasks, like wiggling your pinkie finger. Formal systems are often built hierarchically, with the high-level meaning where consciousness lies building from the low-level primitive functions. Hofstadter is the son of Nobel Prize-winning physicist Robert Hofstadter. Yet if this is truly the case, why does Hofstadter spend so much hofstadteer discussing Bach; meta-mathematics; literary translation; Tortoises and Hofstacter Zen Buddhism; cellular biology; etc.

They’re tedious and beat around the bush and make what should be one paragraph into several pages. The simplest explanation of recursion wscher be the visual imagery of the Russian Maruscha dolls, in hodstadter an item is nested within an item within an item. If you are slapping your knee right now, then you might like this book. I have listed here some of the points raised by the author that might have been dealt in a more rigorous way please note that this is not aimed at conveying a negative impression on the overall quality of this otherwise great bookand also some points that I found particularly interesting and worth mentioning.

You see, Hofstadter never convincingly shows those transitional gdwl between neural activity and thought, though he claims they must be there. Brian I think it’s fun. A work worth taking your time over.

The tagline “a metaphorical fugue on minds and machines in the spirit of Lewis Carroll ” was used by the publisher to describe hofsttadter book. In much the same way, we build language based on isomorphisms.

Part 2 covers applications of part one to more philosophical explorations about consciousness and artificial intelligence and the meta-composition of everything. No matter eacher many new branches you form on the trees, no matter how small they might be, there will always be some unreachable truth.

Fictionists and novelists deriving their narrative structures from the sciences and philosophy is nothing new. Each blind doyglas gave a varying but inaccurate guess of what it was he felt.

Thus far, I have attempted to summarize the main thematic elements of the book as succinctly as possible. However the approach and outlook is strictly materialistic. Bach, the graphic art of Escher and the mathematical theorems of Godel, as well as ideas drawn from logic, biology, psychology, physics and linguistics, Douglas Hofstadter illuminates one of the greatest mysteries of modern science: He wasn’t an academic any more, he was a proper publisher with a dougoas reputation for intellectually high hofstadteer output.


These origins are related in the first two dialogues, and later ones introduce new characters such as the Crab. Another is the presence of a fictional author in the index, Egbert B. I can’t seem to make up my mind about these indecipherable theorems. Grel 10, Andrew Breslin rated it it was amazing.

Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid

View all 6 comments. I’m no math whiz, but I found most of the logical puzzles at least comprehensible after a few careful reads. He uses Lewis Carols interaction between Achilles and the Tortoise to help make mental connections for those of us who are literary minded thank you! I deeply disagree with this perspective — in my view, while these theorems dispel any naive pretension for a century-like a-la Hilbert finitistic and absolute achievement of simultaneous consistency and completeness, on the other hand we must bear in mind that: Want to Read saving….

Some of the ideas regarding intelligence and how it should be implemented are perhaps slightly outdated you would see much more statistical reasoning if you asked experts todaywhich is largely absent in “old AI” approaches to intelligence. Sep 13, Ethan rated it really liked it Shelves: That only made me more disgusted with the book, since it turns out that the book is riddled with historical errors wher This book was very disappointing, especially after recieving so much hype. This book told me something about intelligence – the smartest thing to do is to avoid this book’s overly lengthy babblings of a self-important graduate student who is way too impressed with himself.

I found that my problems with the book weren’t with the subject matter, which was fascinating and enjoyable, but with the author.